Sunday, March 30, 2014

Time, space what is that like, Just how we livin’ when in the hip life….


As indicated by the title for this week’s blog entry. Rae and I decided we would just provide commentary about a couple of things we notice all the time: differences we see in perceptions of time and space.

Time does not mean the same thing here as it does in the US in several respects.  The first, and most obvious way, shows itself in punctuality, or lack thereof. I am only exaggerating slightly when I say that NOTHING happens when it is supposed to and NO ONE keeps appointments at the time they say they will. Let’s say there is a meeting that is supposed to start at 10:00. The only thing you can routinely plan on is that meeting will not start then. At 10:00, people will start wrapping up what they are working on. If it is an important meeting, people will start coming in about 10:05 and by 10:15 there should be enough people to actually start. This is true with business meetings, Church meetings, and personal appointments. At Church, for instance, we are averaging about 100 people in Sacrament meeting. But when we start at 9:30 (we do try to start and stop Sacrament meetings on time but the rest of the meetings during the day seem to start and stop on their own timing) we probably average 25 – 30 people. The rest filter in sometime.

The universal excuse for late starting is traffic. I have to admit traffic can be bad and is frequently unpredictable. Many people are dependent on public transportation, which reduces the individual control people have. However, there is little thought to planning ahead to allow for that traffic. And the late arriving phenomenon also occurs when everyone is already in the building and traffic is of no consideration.

Another way the difference in time manifests itself is in multitasking. Of course in the west we talk about multitasking but usually we mean listening to music while we read or looking something up on the Internet while we watch TV. In India there is little consideration to things happening serially. I can’t tell you the number of times I have been in meetings, even fairly confidential or important meetings, only to have people come in and start separate conversations with key participants or the chair of the meeting to suddenly initiate or at least accept a phone call. In fact, I am sure I irk people because I have asked them not to come into my office when I am meeting with someone else or because I won’t take a call.

This same perception of time also is why, I believe very few people will wait in a queue. If there is a counter meant to handle one person at a time, six or seven people will crowd up and try to have simultaneous conversations. The issues of time and space intersect in these crowds and in traffic also. As we have noted many times people rarely observe lane management, rather they swarm. The only limitations in multiple people or vehicles occupying the same space at the same time is actual physical limitations (how many vehicles can cram into a space at a time without crashing or with only minimal damage) rather than artificial rules.

The issue of space also presents itself in the expectation of personal space. In India this is an interesting contradiction. Impersonal crowding and invasion of personal space is perfectly acceptable. See the examples of the service counter mentioned above or the way crowds swarm and jostle each other at a market area. Having twenty people in a space that would comfortably handle five is nothing unusual. However personal contact we think is very normal, a pat on the back, a touch on the arm, holding hands, or heaven forbid a hug are still quite disapproved of at least among people who follow more traditional ways. As this implies, things are changing. In urban areas, among people who have been most exposed to the west, social contact is becoming much more accepted. On the other hand, as each year literally hundreds of thousands more people rush to urban areas from the countryside or villages, the issue of crowding in impersonal space gets worse.

Well, that’s it for me. Here’s Rae

Here are some of my extremely random thoughts on space.

So many people live in such tiny spaces and yet are so detached from one another in some ways, and so into each other’s business in other ways.  Let me see if I can explain that a bit better.  It’s not uncommon to find parents, their married children (let’s say 2 sons and their wives) and maybe a couple of grandchildren all living together.  Maybe that’s why the idea of personal space is so foreign to everyone, and the idea of having to fight to be heard is a battle. 

Right after I arrived in India we had a couple’s fireside in our branch.  It was pretty funny to watch the couples reactions to questions like, “ when was the last time you told your spouse you loved them” or “when was the last time you kissed”?  The couples looked at each other and the women covered their faces and giggled.   They seemed embarrassed when they were told that they should be giving each other a kiss at least a couple of times a week and the same with telling each other they loved them.  It was pretty funny watching their reactions when they were asked to give each other a kiss.  Husbands and wives don’t seem to care if they sit together.  Some do set together but not all.   

A couple of weekends ago Phil and I went to an area called Nehru Place.  Everyone says if you have computer or electronic needs that’s the best place to go.  Someone had explained a bit about how you can find anything there and there are a lot of venders and shops, an absolutely total understatement.  I was not prepared for what we encountered.  We went into a building and up about 6 stairs, and I literally felt like I had just walked into a beehive.  Millions of people, tiny shop after tiny shop and people swarming everywhere.  Not knowing where to go to find what we were looking for, it was overwhelming to say the least.  We made our way around a couple of the 5 or 6 floors and then it was time to retreat.  Everyone is handing you stuff, wanting you to buy from them.  It was organized, I guess, chaos, like a beehive.  Outside the building there were several other streets of more of the same.  I expect if I go back there a time or two I will become more comfortable with the whole thing. Kind of like I have with other things, like the traffic and other crowded shopping areas. 

That’s it for me for now.  I’m exhausted just remembering it.

Namaste.


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